Friday Mar 27, 2020
That All Shall Be Saved with David Jennings
This episode of “The Rector’s Cupboard” was recorded in late January 2020.
The Cupboard welcomes guest David Jennings. David is a corporate lawyer in Vancouver and a lay theologian and student. David is a leader within the Presbyterian Church in Canada and Chairs or sits on the Board of many organizations including Image Journal and The Vancouver School of Theology. David is a philanthropist who encourages and facilitates thoughtful theological conversation and supports the arts and the artistic expression of Christian faith.
In this episode we talk with David about the concept of Christian Universalism.
We do this by speaking about a recent book by David Bentley Hart. The book is entitled, “That All Shall Be Saved” and it makes the argument from Christian Scripture and history that the proper Christian eschatological (how things end) understanding is that in the end, no one is condemned to eternal punishment or torment.
If you like your hell, that is, if you are convinced it is entirely un-Christian to believe in anything other than eternal damnation (Hart calls you an “infernalist”) then listen to this episode only if you are okay in engaging with thought and interpretation that is different than yours. Then again, you want people who don't agree with you to listen to you sometimes.
If you have struggled with trying to reconcile a God of love, as shown in Jesus Christ, with the idea of eternal damnation for anyone at all, then listen expectantly.
We hope that you know by now, Rector’s Cupboard seeks to have conversations of hopeful faith and theology. You may never have even known that there have been Christians, since the dawn of Christian history who have held to a view different than the infernalist view.
David Jennings is clearly one of those in our time. You don’t have to agree with all that is said. We don’t have to agree with all that is said. We are convinced about the hopeful conversation and no longer impressed with the fearful calls of “Danger! Danger!”
Enjoy!
Episode Terminology:
Orthodox Spectrum: The range of ideas and interpretations considered valid.
3 Transcendentals: 3 things that are often thought to communicate the divine, the higher than – goodness, beauty and truth.
Limited atonement: The interpretation that the sacrifice of Jesus has led to the salvation of some people (those who have chosen to believe it).
Universalism: Wide variance of aspects to universalism, basically that in the end; all things will be redeemed, made new.
Materials referenced in this podcast:
That All Shall Be Saved, David Bentley Hart
This episode we enjoyed a flight of beer from House of Funk Brewing in North Vancouver.
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I have the Bentley Hart book. The Rob Bell book. The Steve Chalke books The Lost Message of Paul, The Lost Message of Paul, Carlton Pearson’s The Gospel of Inclusion.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
Hell is still a dark and lonely terrifying place I feel inside. I hope I don’t materialise in that place in my death. That’s the place of extreme fear. “But nothing can separate us from the love of God”
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
I love Restoration of things not retribution.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
Hell is frightening maybe that’s the point of it?! I ruins our lives, mental health, emotional life all you get is ptsd or She’ll Shock. If God isn’t about love what’s the point?
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
Beauty reveals Truth! And the Divine mystery of the trinity. You find who you really are created by God son Holy Spirit. We’re created by a community.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
I’m struggling in the UK with my 30 year old Christian Pentecostal thing and Christian life. In light of Hell or Gehenna. Etc. I’m not an American or Canadian I’m British and European. And an arts graduate, Autistic, Gender Dysphoric.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
“Hell” is control! Humans controlling other humans. Rome loves Hell it’s useful for controlling uneducated people in ages past and taking money for church and Empire of Rome. So Rome crucified Jesus at the behest of The Hell loving Pharisees . The Eastern Orthodox Church in four schools didn’t have Romes ideas of Hell which is Pagan.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
Hell is a Pagan Northern German word from The Viking world! Or Hel is the God or Goddes of the Nordic underworld. Greetings from England. The word is Gehenna or Valley of Hinom now a green park in Jerusalem. Look for this place on the web, trees, Horses walking around in Gehenna as a park.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
You three are confusing my Autistic brain.
Sunday Nov 07, 2021
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